What Your Irritation, Desire, and Attention Create in Others

You may think you are simply irritated with someone, simply looking, simply admiring them, simply reacting to them in some way — and that this reaction stays inside you. But what if much more is happening at that moment? In the spiritual world, you create energy. And that energy affects more than you alone: it affects the other person and, at the same time, creates consequences for you.

In this conversation with Tatyana Tsvetkova, I look at what happens when you feel irritation toward someone, sexual attraction, envy, judgment or intense attention. What do you bring into the other person? What do you set in motion in yourself? And how can you interact with people without harming yourself or others? If you want to build harmonious relationships with yourself and with other people, it is important to learn to see more of a person than the first state that arises in you.

Where reactions to people come from

– I’m listening to you and trying to relate this to myself. I don’t think I feel irritation very often. But when I do, it is usually a reaction — in psychological terms — to someone violating the boundaries of my space. For me it’s a very clear marker: if I’m irritated with someone, then they have entered my territory, physically or otherwise — they have crossed a boundary. You probably have a different view of this again, but it seems to me that this is a healthy reaction: as if your consciousness is signaling to you that someone has crossed the line, and you need to pay attention to it. But in that situation it is hard to think about the other person, really hard. It’s as though you start saving yourself.

– Look, in this situation I always give the example of a bear. If a bear appeared right now, Tanya, you would hardly go on calmly recording the video just because it is important and you need to stay in the frame.

– I’d be irritated with the bear.

– Your system will pick out, will choose a certain priority. Imagine that two million people were watching this video of ours at the same time, it was a live broadcast, and you had been preparing for it for forty years. And then a bear comes out. Your personality will already start reacting differently, I can tell you. But most likely, in all probability, all your twenty years of preparation will become unimportant compared with the appearance of this bear. Right? And there are people who feed bears by hand. There are people who are ready for that.

And what we are talking about, Tanya, is something you need to be ready for. If grandparents and parents, at school and at home, showed children by their own example how to treat other people — husbands, wives, in society, at a celebration — instead of gathering fifteen people around a birthday table who spend six hours boozing on vodka and stuffing themselves with Olivier salad, without leaving the table or airing out the room… I’m not saying everyone does that, but why not use such an example on a Friday evening.

Look, Tanya: if children were constantly told from childhood — if you had constantly been told — to pay attention to other people, you would have developed a lasting desire to do it. You wouldn’t want to live any other way; you would want to be in that state.

If you let a child into the ocean right now, they will easily say, “I’ll go swimming.” Bring them to us in Half Moon Bay, to the Ritz-Carlton, and say, “Go.” They’ll say, “Sure, I’ll go” — and start walking in. But you can’t go in there: some of the beaches there have rip currents, and you will die, one hundred percent. A small child has no understanding of that rip current. What’s more, they have no understanding that a shark might swim by — that’s rare here, but possible in theory. There is so much they don’t understand about what could happen.

It’s just like the snake we discussed last time, I think: if you let a snake out in front of very small children, a child doesn’t react to it. By the way, my children saw the rattlesnake again the day before yesterday — it keeps coming back to the same place, I can’t take it anymore. They run away from it. But Damian walks right toward it: can I look at it? And he goes up to it, because he doesn’t fully understand what will happen.

An adult doesn’t understand either, but an adult has a conditioned twitch. And overall, the likelihood of being bitten by a rattlesnake is simply negligible.

I remember a lynx coming onto our property for the first time a couple of years ago. I saw it on the cameras — a lynx! I call the local animal control service and say, “Hello, a lynx has come to our place.” They say, “And?” I sent them photos. At first I thought it was a cougar, a mountain lion — a mountain lion has visited us too, of course. And they tell me, “It’s not a mountain lion, it’s a lynx. Nothing to worry about.” I say, “And it’s not dangerous for people?” They say, “Do you know how many cases there are of lynx attacking people, and how many cases of dogs — domestic dogs — attacking people?” I say, “No more questions.”

You have no questions at all, you see? You understand that the likelihood of a lynx attacking you is simply minimal. But what a crazy reaction it triggers! Simply an incredible reaction. Or if a person has been bitten by a dog, they will be afraid for a very long time afterward — a year, decades. They simply can’t stand having a dog nearby.

My children, on the other hand, go up to dogs and put their hands in their mouths. Damian does. Recently a dog bit him at a reserve in Half Moon Bay — and he couldn’t care less, you see? He keeps putting his hands in their mouths and doesn’t understand that a dog can actually do serious harm. I, for example, still keep my distance from most dogs — whether they are small or large. Not to mention large ones, but I avoid small ones too. I understand what even a small dog can really do, how much damage it can cause.

So there is your automatic reaction. But what if, Tanya, you are trained from childhood and taught about the true laws of the Universe: that people should be treated with incredible care, that you need to look at them, feel a person, try to truly see them. That a human being is not a piece of meat: there is a great number of bodies, there is their spiritual system, you are energetically connected with them, there are worlds where you are interconnected within time and outside time, there are lives through which you are or are not connected. That this is altogether a separate spiritual system, a spiritual hierarchy. That another person may surpass you in the spiritual hierarchies, or be lower, or greater — that probably doesn’t matter. That an enormous exchange of energies is taking place, that there are enormous connections.

Imagine being told about this all the time. Then, when you meet someone and irritation arises in you, that irritation will be for you just like the many flowers on your dress: they can go unnoticed. You can meet someone, and they can go unnoticed — your new shoes can go unnoticed. Actually, I heard about those shoes from Polina, and now, for some reason, I suddenly noticed them — and I don’t even remember why she mentioned them. What shoes, anyway? You certainly don’t have just ten or twenty pairs of shoes. What is there to notice? Yet for some reason you look at it. Why did you notice it?

And a whole world may be connected with it for you — with each flower, with the fabric. It’s the same with energy. Although, look, not quite the same: this is negligible compared with energies and states such as irritation, emotions toward a person, living through certain states and so on.

Energy exchange and connections between people

I remember we went to Lake Baikal. We are on Olkhon Island, on a spiritual trip, and the next day the door opens and a new member of the group comes in — a young woman who is now quite close to me. And I see that an enormous volume of energy has come toward me. At the time I was observing energy twenty-four seven. I examined that energy and went along with it.

And literally the next day we are sitting together, sharing our states, and this young woman says: “When I came in and saw Alexander, I immediately felt as though I had known this person for a long time and would come to know him later, as though my life was connected with his, along with a whole lot of other things.”

Later this person goes to the teacher we had been there with — you know her — and says: “I have developed feelings of a physical nature toward Sasha, toward Alexander, like in a relationship between a man and a woman. What is this?” I remember discussing it together with her. I tell her: when you see a person and sense this at the level of spiritual vision, of seeing more broadly than this person is, if you are connected with them through millennia, lives and energies — how else could you feel it? Of course, all the states of living a life will enter into your perception of this person. This person may be closer to you than your very closest husband or even your child. And this is automatically reflected in you at the level of the psychophysics of the personality, the hormonal background and everything else.

On top of that come women’s programs of insecurity in relationships, blocks concerning their own physical body, fears of interacting with their husband and so on. You may feel attraction to the person, but this attraction has nothing whatsoever to do with the attraction that arises at about twenty, when people meet over beer at a disco.

These are different kinds of attraction, different levels of perception. Over beer or vodka at a disco, only a purely animal, physical attraction can arise, because under alcohol your perception narrows. You don’t perceive karma or any true energies. A completely different weapon is at work there.

Attraction to a person is the same as irritation

And, by the way, it’s very interesting that when it comes to attraction — if people are eighteen, sixteen, fourteen, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, it doesn’t matter, any age — and sexual attraction arises while the person is in a state of conscious perception, it is the same as if irritation had arisen.

The first thing to do is not to pounce on it, as you put it: “Right, a barrier has come down, and that’s it.” After all, that is often how this barrier is experienced. You see the other person as sexual prey and perceive nothing else. A man can perceive a woman this way, a woman a man, or you can perceive an enemy in another person. But instead you go: “Oh! For some reason, at this moment the energy has arisen precisely toward this person.”

I remember beginning to study this energy in relationships between men and women. I began to see it very clearly in myself as I interacted with people — my circle is very broad, endless dozens and hundreds of women and men. I began to see that different states arise in me, and with women certain states do arise, including ones with a sexual undertone. And you start thinking: I wonder why it arose with this woman but not with that one? With this one, but not that one?

And if you truly begin to look with genuinely broad perception, rather than with the perception of your physical system alone, you learn a great deal. And, importantly, you begin to see two things. First, you begin to see the other person much more broadly than you did before. Because if you stop examining this, you will see either only irritation, as you just said, or only sex — only this woman’s physical body or some ideas of your own.

First and foremost, you will begin to see the person more broadly. That is incredibly important.

How to begin seeing more of a person

In general, if we reason about how to look at a person, how to learn to understand what is really happening in an interaction with someone, and what state to live from in order to learn to see a person more broadly than your reaction to them, you can ask this question endlessly:

• from the model of “improving myself”;
• out of a desire to make use of something, out of selfish motives;
• out of a desire not to be in the zone of bad people who behave badly.

You can do this endlessly. Or you can look at the situation through a completely different vector. And that other vector comes down to the question: what matters more to you? Is it you yourself, your own development — or other people?

If you consistently live from the position that other people matter to you no less than you do yourself — I’m not even saying that they matter more — if you genuinely pay attention to what the other person really needs, then you don’t need to know how to perceive another person in some separate way. You don’t need to learn this separately or look at it separately.

This is a very important idea: to truly understand other people, you need to place their importance in life at least alongside your own importance.

Although even placing them alongside yourself is a mistake — still a selfish mistake. The very approach of such a division is a mistake.

The ability to see more deeply: an example from nature

It’s exactly like the nature Krishnamurti describes: the ability to see, rather than just: a deer is a deer, a tree is a tree, there’s a tree, and there’s a tree, and here’s a tree. And I look at my garden, at these hundreds of plants, and every time it’s like this for me: it makes no difference whether I planted them or not. Honestly, with many of them I wish I hadn’t planted them myself and someone else had done it for me, because the amount of work that went into them is simply incredible. But the point right now is not the work. I just look and really take it in.

You see more broadly in it, rather than only: “This damn garden has already eaten up my money, my energy, my health and my strength” — or some kind of boasting, or something else. In the same way, you see more of a person, too.

Phantom trauma and the energy of perception

There is also a second story. I’ll give it to you, Tanya, through the example of a man and a woman — I have told this to a great many men. When you, a man, see another woman and start looking at her as an object of sexual attraction, you bring phantom trauma into her energy.

It’s incredibly simple! I remember the first time I sensed this — precisely in my own exploration, taking into account the different energies of perception in me. I might not perceive deer, but for some reason I did perceive women, and I had very strong fixations. I could fail to notice a deer, but I saw a woman.

I don’t see this as a joke, but as a true energy. It is a very important energy. And I know that such energies arise in women too.

But the thing is, women also have energies toward men. I know women who tell me, “Oh, that’s something that arises in you men, but not in us women.” I say, “That’s just the kind of woman you are.” I know women in whom these energies arise much more strongly than in some men.

And I know men, Tanya, in whom these energies don’t arise. I remember, probably about fifteen years ago, asking myself a very clear question: wait, I can see men in whom these energies don’t arise — this isn’t normal. I mean, it’s normal for them. Why do they arise in me? That’s very strange. It turns out that you can be at peace within this energy. I discovered that peace, as it turns out, exists — I saw it in another person. And then I began to look into the ways these energies arise.

In exactly the same way, Tanya, there are ways energies arise that make someone need to exercise endlessly, look after their body, look a certain way, dress a certain way, eat in a certain way, go to bed on time or not go to bed, work, learn about the world and so on. Reading, literature — all of this is the presence or absence of energy.

So this second topic is very important: you are guaranteed to bring trauma to the person.

When a man sees a woman and she arises for him as an object of desire, it is a guaranteed phantom — and a very heavy one.

And there is a very interesting aspect here that I want to explain to you.

How irritation creates trauma and karma: the flows a single instance of irritation sets in motion

By the way, I want to tell you that this phantom is no worse and no better than the phantom caused by irritation. When you just described how the energy of your irritation affects a person, I could really see how you can get irritated with someone and how you close up — you hear nothing. You go through this kind of closing, like a cocoon. And it happens not only during irritation but at various moments: for example, if you don’t share someone’s point of view or for some reason don’t want to hear this person at that moment. Because it isn’t always like that with you: there are things that at one moment you hear, and at another you don’t.

With this irritation you take energy and put it into the other person — you create trauma for that person and are guaranteed to create karma for yourself.

You simply set in motion countercycles of energy exchange, and through these countercycles you connect to other spaces, you give access to spaces that feed on this. You yourself bring this irritation into yourself from other directions, you yourself begin to soak it up, you bring it into your heart — in terms of the spiritual world of the heart and in terms of everything.

A huge amount of your space of perception closes off, your astral bodies contract, your “I” begins to perceive less well. You open yourself more to Luciferic energies. And from that start you begin to transmit energies onto your children. These are simply enormous flows.

A single instance of irritation, Tanya! If you look at it as a whole, you could write enormous dissertations about it. Endless flows of energy are set in motion. Perhaps you’ll say I’m getting carried away: endless flows of energy. But believe me, these flows are much, much greater than the flows of energy described in any Nobel Prize for any discovery. That is the scale of these flows.

Awareness of a reaction as the beginning of transformation

So if a person becomes aware of this at that moment… What did I start doing? I started becoming aware of it. I remember, it was a very long time ago. I began to realize: it turns out that at this moment I am bringing this phantom state into a woman.

As soon as I began to become aware of this, an enormous transformation began in me in terms of consciousness and the perception of people.

How energy exchange and influence work between people

– But, Sasha, if you think about it: there are women who are sexual by their very nature. They walk down the street and evoke this in almost everyone — there really are women like that. So what, will she simply be unhappy and die in torment?

– Let’s discuss it. By the way, you have asked a question that I could see very clearly coming in the course of our conversation — and here it is. A wonderful question. This is about female energy or male energy in general. Once again: although you want to single out female energy, I really want to show you in today’s video that this is not a question of female energy. It is exactly the same question as when a plant is so beautiful or unique that it evokes this state. Or a person riding in a Rolls-Royce.

As it happened, I bought a Rolls-Royce when I was thirty. There is a T-shirt like that: “My father drove a Rolls-Royce,” “My father had a Rolls-Royce” — something like that. And I wanted to make myself a T-shirt: “I bought my first Rolls-Royce at thirty.”

This is a very interesting energy. Even then I was observing energy, studying energy, and at that time a great many energies were raging in me at once. They were heightened. The energy of ego, or of structure, was heightened in me — the Ahrimanic structure of money, of power in general and all of that. And at the same time the energy of learning about the world and exploring the world was heightened in me. I was simultaneously learning and living through this, while at the same time being in love toward people and working on this energy. Even as it was heightened, I was working on it very seriously — I remember this very clearly.

It is a very complex energy, because in ninety-nine percent of the social people of today’s world — wherever you are, in whatever city, in whatever place, and regardless, once again, of their level of wealth — perception switches on, attention turns to this energy. A person with billions may be walking by — they will still look at that Rolls-Royce. It’s automatic, automatic.

– And you can be wearing a ragged T-shirt, but people still read that energy.

– I’m deliberately talking to you about this energy — not in the sense people like to write about, boasting in a video, how pure I am or not, but in connection with what you said: that there is a beautiful woman, for example, or some beautiful visual. I gave you this example on purpose. Just as there are beautiful flowers, a beautiful view.

– In my view, a beautiful woman was not born beautiful by accident. There must be some purpose to it. Otherwise everyone would be the same.

– Look, we will definitely talk about that now: what beauty is in general, why something attracts attention, what exactly attracts attention, what this energy of paying attention is. I will now tell you about a case I had involving the connection between money and spiritual worlds. And not just one — I’ll give several examples of what people actually pay attention to. I’ll start with the example of the Rolls-Royce, because it is simpler than describing a woman: it is not a person, it is a thing.

The thing is, for the person who owns one, this is a very serious energy to live with. And this energy can be lived through very lightly — a person can relate to it so unselfishly — or it can be lived through very selfishly.

There is a trend now, a fashion. People say: “This is pure rapper culture — Rolls-Royces, gold and so on.” And recently Ksenia Sobchak spoke on this subject. She said that showing off is when people say that. The Rolls-Royce isn’t showing off; saying that is. And I agree with her here — despite different attitudes, different perceptions, here I agree with her — because she has the ability to perceive different energies. She personally is someone capable of perceiving broad energies. Polina recently sent me a reel about her handbags. I said: “This is simply a person who senses beauty.”

– Yes, she has an amazing perception of beauty: both food and clothes.

– Clearly, this is a person capable of perceiving. Once again: I have mixed perceptions of her interactions with people, her attitude toward people, various details, everything. But that is an important aspect.

By the way, in my dealings with her — as it happened — she was very careful and guarded with me. Although it wasn’t any kind of real relationship, and you should by no means think that we know each other or that I am sharing something here. It’s just that because of our work a certain interview was supposed to take place, and for certain reasons it didn’t happen — it doesn’t matter; the interaction was very neutral. Although I can’t say I was planning to do that interview or even wanted to do it. On the contrary, I was trying very hard to avoid it. I was doing it for my team.

But again, once more: this person has a very healthy, broad perception of these things — able to perceive these energies without showing off. I don’t think she shows off. By the way, she also talked about how anyone could call a fifteen-story building luxury housing. I really liked that. She says: “It’s an anthill.” And I agree with her. This person has a normal, healthy perception of life.

So every time a person gets out of a Rolls-Royce or rides in it, they are in a state of very heavy energy, because they are the object of close attention. Just as politicians, celebrities and a great many others get that close attention — this is very important — because of various factors. You may have an attachment to a celebrity: you may never even have seen this celebrity, you have just heard her name — and you have some kind of attachment to it. Just as there is a certain attachment to some location, a certain energy arises in response to it. Like Santa Barbara. I say “Santa Barbara” — da-da-da-dum — and I suggested adding that little tune to the ToTheMoon episode. I don’t know whether they will add it or not. A certain state.

And the people who see you also transmit a certain energy onto you. I want to tell you, Tanya: when you see luxury, it is very important to learn to work with this. As you said earlier — this will probably be another video, one of the videos we recorded together — if there is irritation toward a person, a certain phantom is created, and you need to learn to work on it, to learn to notice it.

In exactly the same way, if you feel irritation — or not irritation, but you say this person is showing off, doing something like that — you are definitely creating very bad energy both for the other person and for yourself.

Now an important question: why did this energy come about at all, why did irritation appear? Is the owner of the Rolls-Royce to blame? Is that beautiful woman you were talking about to blame? What matters here is what energy brought this person to this. And it comes in two types: there is natural energy, and there is energy that was selfish from the start.

That is, a woman deliberately put on a short skirt from the start, deliberately put on makeup, deliberately exposed her cleavage, deliberately made sure she would be perceived, she would be seen — seen not as a spiritual system. She did it not out of an impulse of spiritual life, of simply living her day, but out of specific things, out of the psychophysics of her personality. There is a root of certain energies behind her, but fundamentally it is the psychophysics of the personality. Or it’s a different matter: you walked into your wardrobe, you had some kind of spiritual inspiration, such beauty opened up, and you visually maintained a certain style. Why did it happen at that moment? These are very different sources of energy.

Another point: a person may not have wanted to face this. Many people later avoid this energy: they avoid being the wives or husbands of famous people, they avoid any kind of fame at all. They have to walk around in dark glasses and caps and hide from everyone. And others don’t do this and feel completely open.

For a long time I had a business together with a very wealthy person — you know about that. And he walked down the street calmly, easily. We went everywhere together, wherever we liked. We never had any security — not once, nowhere, in no country in the world, and we visited a great many places together. And he always said: “I have no intention whatsoever of living in that state.” Yet many other people said: “How can he go without security?” They wanted to assign security to him, because they believed it was an attribute of such people. They saw him as a person with a certain fortune, rather than as a person with the energetic impulse he carries inside himself. They didn’t even understand how the world of money works: having a certain amount of money imposes no requirement whatsoever for you to have security.

I remember coming here and saying: “Do you really think Mark Zuckerberg drives himself or washes his own car? He must have security.” People tell me: “He has no security, he drives himself around calmly.” I say: “Listen, every member of Meta’s board of directors is guarded by an individual person.”

Meta’s board of directors is now guarded separately, because people can cause problems for them. And the problem won’t be someone putting up a naked bust of Elon Musk in Times Square. It could be a real attack. These people are attacked — it isn’t even spilled ink. People want to kill them. And this is a really big, enormous misfortune and problem. Although did the person choose to end up in this, did they want to end up in it? Far from always.

And here is the question: how does a person understand the fact that they have certain qualities? Do they relate to them along the lines of “I’m just so smart, so wonderful” — or do they understand that there are reasons for all of it? And your personality did not influence those reasons: that you are smart, wonderful, look great, and that a huge number of different circumstances have happened to you. Even if you got a Rolls-Royce — even if it came to you as an inheritance — that is the cause and karma not of your dad and not of everyone else. It is your own karma. You needed to be at that time, in that space, with that money, to be with it and live through it — or to be in that beauty. And the question is: how do you live through it from here on, and what experience are you supposed to gain?

There are people who have to die for money. And there are those who have to be stoned because of their beauty. And we know a great many such examples. Being stoned is, of course, not a modern example, but such things did happen in our society. A great many people burned at the stake. They say it even affected genetics. Of course, an enormous number of people were destroyed because of it. And they had to live through it.

It is like souls that are not born because in our time they would be damaged by modern society. They must not be damaged, so they are not born. Just as many souls were not born in certain regions because drugs appeared there — those souls were redistributed. A soul, for example, cannot be born at a certain time in a certain place, because it would end up in certain circumstances, difficult ones. How can women be born now in certain countries where a woman is not allowed to go to school after the age of fourteen?

That is a big question. The question here is not about the woman: this soul incarnated, for example, in a female body and is in that female body to fulfill certain tasks. How can this happen? It is very difficult, because this woman may be destroyed at any moment by circumstances that are not of a karmic nature at all, but of heredity and the karma of the country she is in. And, of course, the system fundamentally won’t even go into that country’s karma, because the spiritual karma of a country can be observed.

What’s more, you cannot escape your country’s karma — no one can escape it. I tell everyone, especially in our modern, present time: you won’t escape it. To escape a country’s karma, your spiritual being would have to be so independent in the world… I personally know only a handful of such people. I know them, but there are only a handful — those who are independent of their country’s karma.

– The karma of the country where you were born?

– Where you were born, yes. Then the circumstances of the karma of the country where you live also begin to have an influence. Regions and everything else have an influence too. But fundamentally, of course, a country’s karma carries very serious weight. It is, after all, a big foundation that a person has lived through. This is very important to remember: your system has been formed.

Of course, if you then lived half your life here and half your life there, different things happen afterward, but they have an influence. Just like heredity: the family you were born into influences you, even if you never saw your parents in your life. Next — the people you grew up with have a very strong influence. The places you have been influence you. All of this can be called heredity, in quotation marks.

I once brought in such a term — Danil, my friend, associate and partner, and I discussed it. For myself, I call it psychophysics. Although it isn’t some term of mine: if it comes up in my speech, it refers to this, but that doesn’t mean I introduced, studied or created some term.

So of course, Tanya, if a woman walks down the street and these lustful reactions are directed at her — if this woman initially carried the impulse to stand out, to reveal her body, to show it so that her body would be seen — she will receive this phantom effect as her responsibility, karmically. But this in no way releases the one who did it, and in no way releases her.

What’s more, their spheres may not even be connected with each other, but there they are united by energies. It is like taking antibiotics: they create phantom etheric bodies in a person’s system. There is a great deal of this spectrum, of different types. And this will be a really serious injury.

Every woman should remember this. And every man should remember this. Everyone should remember what state you are in when you do something.

And I want to tell you that a very wide spectrum of energies is present in me. As I always say, there is a spectrum of me that is constantly in fear, or a spectrum of me that is in a certain system. It just hangs somewhere, and I observe it. Various states are present in me. For example, since I pay attention to my appearance, my wardrobe and so on, I see different energies being born and arising in me — why I do something. And every time I keep observing them. At some point I realize: right, this is just some kind of background. But I don’t let this energy slip by. I understand that in our time it can arise.

What’s more, this energy can also arise naturally. If you and I are making a recording like this, you obviously remember that you need to look presentable on such a recording. You certainly think about it, and so do I. We are such personalities, with such systems, with such energies. Is this manipulation? No, because this is social society, and in social society this is a certain parameter: the right lighting, the right place, the right space, good taste and so on. It simply matters to the two of us: we don’t want to look like a shapeless mess slumped here, or sit eating chips at the same time, or do some very strange things.

There are strange things I do, and I would like to work through them. For example, I have a friend — you know him very well — Dima Mugenov. He periodically says: “When I watch your videos, your speech sometimes catches my ear.” He really is someone who studies languages a great deal, various systems — fairly complex in terms of the correctness of Russian, now Chinese, Latin. Serious, fundamental things: correct pronunciation, a desire to get to the bottom of it.

He often tells me: “You said this word wrong, and this one wrong, and that one wrong. Your speech is basically verbal diarrhea.” I’ll put it this way: I would very much like to work through this energy, I would very much like to resolve these issues. It’s just that many things are beyond my control at the moment, but I would like to work through them, because I understand that, among other things, these are certain distortions: the use of filler words, incorrect speech structure, incorrect phrasing of everything there is. In some part, this is my lack of education. Although for the world as a whole it may count as a super education in a huge number of respects.

And, as Dima himself says: “Overall it adds a certain charm, it’s your style.” I find it interesting to listen to him: this is learning. And here I try not to compare: I hear what energy he carries.

Recently I told a friend of my mother’s — she lives in Arizona — about this idea of my friend’s, and I liked what she said: “Sasha, you know, it’s such a great idea. It would be great if you worked on it. You speak to thousands of people, it’s so important.” I really liked that she supported his idea, because it really is important. And she was talking specifically about Russian, because I would like to develop the quality of my English speech. Although I know that my English is more than enough for communicating in the world: you and I know how people talk. It’s easy here, even with an accent. Anyone at all — just listen to Melania, it’s simply unreal. But I still want so much to speak beautifully.

You look at her visual image — someone will say it seems like a theatrical image, although that is who she is. She looks like a production that could not be created. And if you and I look around, few women famous in the world who are in politics or in the economy have managed to do anything like that at all.

– Can you imagine, for some reason I was thinking about her today on my way over to you.

– I don’t listen to her; I’m not interested in what she says. But her image, what she has done, is very striking. Although, look, Tanya, to you and me it seems that this would be very easy to do. Agreed?

– Yes. Nothing extraordinary.

– So, look, what an interesting aspect arises: essentially, her image seems very simple to you and me. What I just described can be done, it’s all very simple. And yet no one is doing it. No one at all is creating this construct of such a visual, or impression, or state.

Someone will say: why do it? And yet it is incredibly serious when you are such a world-famous person and you bring beauty into society. It’s wonderful! It’s wonderful that you have the opportunity to bring beauty — a certain kind of feminine beauty, to carry it, to show this energy. It is a question of having this energy, of having this state.

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